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Please e-mail me with any comments or suggestions you have about this website.

I hope this becomes an area where people all around the world can share information ,photos , written articles and memorabilia so we can all get a better understanding about this overlooked champion, but that means everyone needs to contribute.

thanks

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I happened to come across your website just now, as I was Googling around with Young Fisher. I thought you might appreciate a story. My dad was born and raised in Syracuse, NY and passed away at 91 just two years ago. During the Depression, he "worked" (sort of, according to his stories) helping to build Schiller Park on the north side (primarily Italian) of Syracuse. Anyhow, he used to always mention ex-boxer "Chuck Fisher" as his gang foreman. Turns out that Chuck Fisher = Young Fisher = Chuck Fazio! He claimed the young guys on the crew liked Fisher ... especially since Fisher let them goof off quite a bit. He used to tell me that they would "get Chuck going" by mentioning his fights with Harry Greb - who Fisher apparently despised. Dad would tell me that Chuck would glare back at his tormentors and say "yeah, but the son of a b*tch never knocked me out!"

Great website!
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Hi...I was wandering boxing websites & I noticed you requested any storys about Ace...I was a security guard back in 1971 when I was college...we did all the apartment complexes is Foster City, Calif...got a call over patrol car radio from a complex manager about an attempted robbery...I arrived to be met by a short old man with a shuffling step & a flat nose...he was the new apartment manager, Craig Exley...I asked him if he was hit in the nose during robbery, and he laughed & said that happened years ago when he was a boxer...I asked him if he could describe the 3 robbers, and he said he could, but why don't I just look at them myself?...I entered his office to find 3 black guys between 6 to 8 inches taller than him all laying on the floor knocked out..he said he only hit them once each after they threatened him...they thought  this old man would be an easy mark...we talked about the framed boxing pictures on his wall while we waited for police to come, and he said with a smile, "Yeah, I used to be Ace Hudkins.." .I was just an 18 year old kid, but my dad was a boxer in the 1930s...Ace (Craig) revelled me with stories about Mickey Walker fights til the cops got there...hope you get a kick out of this...Phil

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George Engel, one of Greb's managers, was my father's best man at his wedding. I used to have a 3/4 length pictur of Grb in my bedroom but my father lent it to someone and it was never returned. Geb's girfriend Ruth was married to Milton Jaffe after they broke up. Milton's brother owned the Casino in down town Pittsburgh. Milton moved to Vegas later on where he had a piece of the Stardust. I remember George Engel very well since he came to my father's office when he was in town. I used to talk to him about boxing and the great fighters of the past. Being from Pittsburgh I alwys thought Greb the best fighter of all time, at least that is what my older relations and friends said. I had an argument with a friend of mine last week at dinner when I said Greb was the greatest fighter pound for pound in history and that he had beat Tunney twice. I missed by one but had forgotten about Dempsey.Thank you for the site.

Tim Rooney
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I do not have this documented through the press or the news otherwise, but my Grand Father, John Van Swearingen , was a second to Harry in many of his bouts in the nineteen twenties.

My Grand Father was born in 1894 or 1895 so he was about the same age as Greb. He had a tire business in Ohio just across the border from the Pa./Ohio line near Pittsburgh and came to know the Greb family. He and Harry became friends and that is how my Grand Father eventually came to become his "corner second" in many of his bouts in the early nineteen twenties.  My Grandfather said of Harry that many times he would see an opponent's head jerking backward from three to five times, but Greb's blows came so violently fast and with such accelerated velocity that you could not see the punches being thrown; all that he, or anyone else in the audience, could discern was the head of the opponent racheting backwards from three to five times incrementally. And after such a ferocious onslaught most simply were knocked out and fell to the canvas.

Grandfather said of Harry, "he was absolutely the most lightening fast man with his fists that I, or anyone else I've ever talked with, has ever seen."  And my Grandfather saw a lot of the fights in the early part of the last century and no one ever even came close to the lightening fast velocity with which Greb could throw his famous "windmill" punches.

My Grandfather related these and a few other stories about Greb and championship boxing in the first part of the twentieth century to me when I was a kid growing up in the mid forties to mid nineteen fifties. Grandfather died at 83 in 1979.

This might be an interesting family story to share with boxing fans that was passed down to me.

Sincerely.

William H. Hooke

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Hello!

I'm a fellow Harry Greb fan. please check out my letter in the between

rounds section of the latest issue of KO magazine (holiday 2002). I explain how

Greb would have beaten hopkins contrary to what an article in ring said. I also

have the transcript on my website http://lenliuboxing.tripod.ca please feel free

to cut and paste it onto your own website under comments section! Thx.keep punching

-Len Liu

"Update for Week of Monday October 7-13, 2002. Hey fight fans, guess what? My letter was published in the holiday 2002 issue of KO magazine in the between rounds section, so if you ever pick up a copy,which is on newstands now, be sure to check it out! If you don't get a chance, I have written the transcript of my letter here: Harry Over Hopkins- "I enjoyed your article on Bernard Hopkins versus the all-time greats in the October issue of KO. I agree more or less with the results, except for the Harry Greb fight (KO magazine had Hopkins beating Greb by a close decision). How can you have Hopkins beating Harry Greb when I remember an article published in The Ring that had Greb beating Roy Jones? You say that Hopkins is technically superior to Greb, but Greb beat a lot of fighters supposedly more skilled than he (Gene Tunney, Tommy Loughran, Mike and Tom Gibbons, Billy Miske, etc.). Greb also beat fighters who were bigger, stronger, and harder punchers than himself, so Hopkins' edge in power is not really a factor. You also state that Hopkins is quicker than Greb, even though there is no film on Greb. Those who saw him fight swear that he had lightning quick hands, probably the quickest seen up to that time. Greb's hard-living life style would also not be a factor because he fought every week and had limitless stamina and could go 15 rounds. This is not to downplay the wonderful accomplishments of Hopkins, who happens to be my favorite fighter out of the current crop, but Greb was simply to good to lose to Hopkins. I may be only 22, but I am smart enough t know that sometimes, the old-timers had things that today's fighters don't." So there you have it. I did all you Harry Greb fans a favor. I am even more estatic that my response was published than when Max Kellerman answered my question on the air on Friday Night Fights on "to the max". I asked him which sugar had the fastest hands. He answered that Sugar Ray Robinson had the fastest hands as a welterweight, while Shane Mosley and Ray Leonard were tied for 2nd. "

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Hi

Harry Greb is my favourite fighter. One of the best articles on him was in a MAN magazine issue, dated around 1966. I read it in August 1967. I was hooked then and have been fascinated by his career and spirit. Ring Magazine, recently called him the greatest middleweight ever and he deserves it. He was tough enough for anything.

Like, when one of his co-handlers, quoted after the first Tunney fight, " He spotted the bum 5 inches in height and twelve pounds in weight and beat him." Another replied, " Not only that but an eye as well".

Harry Greb, was one for all times, A LEGEND.

Do contact me , in case you manage to findthe article.

Regards

Cyrus

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Hi,

Your site is awesome. Your efforts are much appreciated. All boxing history fans have a great place to start when studying Greb. I have been collecting boxing for over 20 years and stuff on Greb is the true "Holy Grail" of the hobby. I have a nice shot of Harry hitting the heavy bag, I must send to you. I have also just commenced a new boxing collecting site: www.ringmemorabilia.com . I have added your site as a favorite link.

Hope you can do the same for me. My friend Lou has a nice Greb signed photo. Anyway, all the best and good luck with your search for more and varied Greb material.

John Griffin

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I remember my father talking about the prowess of Harry Greb, telling me he was a wild swinging windmill in the ring and one of the greatest multi-title holders who ever entered the ring. Yours is the first film I've ever seen of the man and he sure looks very formidable to me. Too bad his fame was cut short by an early death. Thanks for dedicating these pages to Greb, a truly great pugilist and a guy who deserved better than he got.

GORDON B. GREB, 69 Skymountain Circle, Chico, CA

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I happened on the website today and was amazed at its design, scholarship, humor, and poise. (I've made the opener into my pc's wallpaper, if that's okay.) The comic of Greb-Tunney was a real find. I'm sure you already know the great Greb profile that ran in Esquire in the 30s by James R. Fair, but I ran across it in putting together a new boxing collection (coedited by W.C. Heinz) called The Book of Boxing, just out from Total Sports Illustrated. The Fair piece is in there, along with many others.

Anyway, keep up the good work in honoring the mysterious and ferocious Pittsburgh Windmill.

Best,

Nathan Ward

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  I wanted to write a quick e-mail to thank you for this website. I am a relative of Harry Greb, and have read everything there is to read about him. I was so happy to see actual footage of him training. I did a little boxing when I was younger and have always been a huge boxing fan.

  My mothers maiden name is Greb. My grandfather William (who passed away two years ago) was Harry's nephew, and had a few early childhood memories of the champ. He told me that there is alot of Harry's memoribilia at the German club in the East Liberty section of Pittsburgh. I have'nt been able to make it down there. Once again, thanks for the great pictures and footage of the champ.

Turley

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I've been a fight fan my whole life. I really took notice to Greb when I read how he fought his last 5 years(90+fights) blind in one eye. It always sucked that there was almost nothing in the way of footage or text regarding this legendary champ. Your site is a great source of information about a real SOMEONE from not just boxing history, but American history!! 

I'm 33 years old. For well over 1/2 my life I've been intrigued by the mysterious legendary Greb. About all I knew was that he fought the last 5 years of his career(over 90 bouts) blind in one eye. Then along comes Harry Greb.com and I learn more about the Pittsburg Windmill in one sitting than the past 25 years. Thanks!!!!!

Richey Jones

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Hi,

I am Harry Greb's great grand daughter Jennifer. You have talked with my dad before.

I think the web site is very cool. I got to learn a lot about my great

grandfather. Thank you for making this web site . I hope more people

that knew about my grandfather emails information .

Jennifer Wohlfarth

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My father once told me about my great uncle, So,dier Bartfield, although I was very excited, all the memorabilia from his boxing days were lost in a fire. Only one picture remains of him and a cousin has it. A couple of days ago a friend and I were talking about my great uncle. my friend told me to check the web to see if i could find any information. I really did not think anything would come of it. But as you know it did. I just wanted to write you a quick thank you.

I appreciate the web page.

Thank you again,

Scott Bartfield

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GREB DIED OVER 25 YEARS BEFORE I WAS BORN,BUT IT SEEMS LIKE I'VE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE ABOUT THE PITTSBURGH WINDMILL ALL MY LIFE. YOU HAVE A GREAT WEBSITE. THERE IS A CHANCE I MIGHT HAVE AN ARTICLE OR PITURE OF GREB THAT YOU DON'T HAVE. I AM VERY BUSY THOUGH WITH MY OWN BUSINESS, SO IT MIGHT TAKE AWHILE TO GO THROUGH SOME OF MY STUFF. I HAVE SOME OLD POLICE GAZZETTES WITH GREB ARTICLES. I ALSO HAVE GENE TUNNEY'S RARE BOOK ARMS FOR LIVING.HOWEVER THERE ISN'T MUCH MENTION OF GREB IN IT. I LOVE THE QUOTES BY GREB ON YOUR SITE. A QUOTE FROM GREB IS HARD TO COME  BY.                                                        

THANKYOU, VERY, VERY MUCH!

DAVE

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Man,

Your web site is great! May we all attack life the way Harry Greb attacked

in the ring!!!!!

The Mayor

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hi,

first of all i would like to compliment you on your fine harry greb page!

a bit about myself. my name is pierre greb burkhart. i am not related to

harry greb but the way i got my name is rather amusing. please humor me.

my dad was from pittsburgh. while my mom was pregnant with me my dad kept

teasing her that he wanted me named harry greb burkhart after the pittsburgh

windmill! well she named me before my dad got to the hospital. she named

me pierre after her grandfather and greb to satisfy my dad's wishes.

i have some harry greb clippings from my baby book that my mom saved. some

of the photos i have i didn't see on your page. i have scanned them so if

you would like to see them let me know!

sincerely,

pierre greb burkhart

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I want to thank you for giving me the opportunity to find the book GIVE

HIM TO THE ANGELS. I have been trying to find the book for at least ten

years. "Happy" Albacker was my cousin, and I heard my father talk about

his cousin "Happy" and his friend Harry Greb all of my life. I am not a

follower of boxing, but I purchased the book and found Harry Greb to be

one colorful character. Thank you again for your Web Page, I browse it

quite often.

Phyllis Albacker Roseberry

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Harry, I would have loved to see you rumble with Roy Jones,Jr. He

would have faced the true reality of the sport he wants to retire

from healthy. You would have assured he didn't.

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The fighters of that time fought the best of the best. Todays fighters

pick and choose to pad their records. Greb was the best fighter ever in

any weight class. Roy Jones Jr. talks about fighting a heavyweight, well

Harry Greb beat Tunny for the american light heavyweight title and Tunny

went on to beat Dempsy for the world heavyweight title. There is no

comparison between todays fighter and a fighter like Harry Greb!!!

I would have loved to have seen Greb and Stanly Ketchell fight but it

never happend.

Nice sight !!!!!! Thanks!!!

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DEAR SIR

TERRIFIC PAGE ON ONE OF THE FINEST FIGHTERS EVER TO GRACE THE RING.YOUR

SIGHT HAS BEEN INFORMITIVE AS WELL AS ENTERTAINING.MAY I SAY WELL DONE.

PLEASE DON'T PUT MONEY ON THIS BUT I BELIEVE "THE RING"

MAGAZINE PUBLISHED A NICE ARTCLE ON MR. GREB IN 91' OR 92'

WITH PICTURES, IF MEMORY SERVES CORRECT MAY NOT BE ON

YOUR SIGHT. I WILL ATTEMPT TO FIND OUT MORE AND YOU MAY ALSO BE INTRESTED IN CHECKING THIS OUT.

        THANK YOU FOR AN OUTSTANDING PAGE

D. HANKS

        PS: "THE MOST FEARLESS FIGHTER EVER"

NOT PROBABLY

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Hi ,

I just wanted to tell you that your Harry Greb web site is better

than ever. I just took a quick look at it, and bookmarked it to check

it out more thoroughly later. I'm looking forward to finding things to

contribute to it. I think that what you are doing is really a great

service to the public. Perhaps you'll encourage numerous people to

start web sites for other boxers, as well.

Thanks again,

Anne Preston

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I WAS SUPRISED TO SEE A GREB SITE. I HAVE ALOT OF FRIENDS WHO ARE BOXING PEOPLE AND VERY FEW EVEN KNOW WHO HARRY GREB IS. JUST ON WHAT IVE READ AND KNOWING HIS FIGHT RECORD I RATE HIM AS THE THIRD GREATEST FIGHTER EVER. MY FIRST PICK WOULD BE ROBERTO DURAN AND #2 WOULD BE RAY ROBINSON. THAT MIGHT CHANGE HOWEVER IF I EVER WOULD SEE A GREB FIGHT. JUST GOING ON WHAT I KNOW AND HAVE NEVER SEEN I MAKE HIM MY #3 PICK. HE WAS TRUELY AMAZING.  

  THANKS FOR THE HISTORY

APRIL STRAWSER

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hello

I just wanted to say this is a great website. I am a huge fight fan. I grew

up on stories of mickey walker and harry greb from my father. My father

even wrote a screen play about the two great fighters, which he sold but

nothing happened to it. I even have collected a few of harry's grebs

boxing cards...there hard to find. My dad just got a computer this was

the first webiste he visited....he's hooked on the internet now.

Thanks great job

michael connolly

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Say Hey, Nice Stuff Here. Well, you have my vote for Harry as one

of the ten best of all time. He was unbelievable and with at

best- doing it with one eye. Some Champion and the little guy

took the measure of Tunney in the ring and Jack D. outside the

ring. Hard act to follow.

textom @ el paso,tex.

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Hi:

I recently sent you a scanned photo of Mickey Walker which you have

displayed on your Website.I noticed that on the Boxing Talk forum you

mentioned some fighters that you were looking for. One was Jimmy Slattery

who I understand was a great friend of Harry's.The attatchment here is an

actual Jimmy Slattery Post Card from the 1920s.It's really great to see

things from the past when greatness had a true meaning.Every time I visit

your Website it brings back a lot of stories that I've heard from my father

and his brothers.I hope that you can use this Card.It's nice to be able to

share greatness with other people.It was nice of you to put my handle under

Mickey's picture.I'm using a Gateway PC and the photo has a JPEG suffix.

Take Care

PUG

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Who was Mr. Grebs trainer?

Was it a man by the name of Haslem 'Bucky' Phenlen?

I met him once and he told me he had trained Mr Greb. If its true I have a few anecdotes he told me.

thanks,

Reid
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I am not 100% sure of the spelling of his name. here's the scoop about this "haslem bucky phenlen" person who swore to me he had trained harry greb. I went into this nice old mans house around the 1975? It was in Broward County Florida, in a town called Miramar, west of fort Lauderdale; to get something notarized. I admired his many boxing pictures on the wall. (i was a fan and used to go to all of the fights on Miami beach and i watched ali .. willy pastrano etc.) he had many pix of harry greb, and about 50 other boxers, including henry hank Armstrong, lew jenkins, etc. he told me about the fight with gene tunney. he said he knew angelo dundees dad in new York. he told me he had trained harry greb but it drove him crazy. he said the man just wanted to dance and stay out late. i am almost sure this was in new York. he mentioned an incident in which harry greb was involved in an attempted mugging. (with the key word being "attempted." ) i seem to recall a newspaper clipping where as harry beat the tar out of 4 or 5 muggers? (central park rings a bell.) now here comes the amazing part. i saw a weathered old Miami Herald newspaper clipping that showed Bucky jumping thru his hands at the age of 62! IM guessing he was in his 70's when i met him. i did a tape recorded interview with him, for a possible sport's story; which i probably have lost. (I'll look for it.) now get this. this clipping said that haslem bucky phenlen had gone to saint Joseph's university (philly) and been an all American basketball player and a FOOTBALL player thus the name Bucky. He then joined the army (WW1) and supposedly fought in the famous lost battalion of the Argonne forest. The clipping said he won the congressional medal of honor! he said he had been machine gunned in the legs and had eaten bark! He rolled up his pants and sure enough it looked like 3 bullet hole scars to me. Before the war he told me he had toured the Northeast with HONUS WAGNER's BASKETBALL ALL STAR'S. If it's all true this was one amazing man. The pictures looked old and he didn't seem to be delusional. he called Chris and Angelo Dundee "babies". he said he had gotten into a fight in the ring with ha2ry one day over his lack of dedicated training. he said he didn't lose. the picture on the front of the local section of the Miami Herald showed him jumping thru his hands... he had a leap! i seem to recall the clipping said he was 62! So I'm guessing the clipping was from about 1962. those old clips are microfilmed i would imagine. you might ask the sports editor Edwin pope to help..maybe for a nice lead story. they have a web site at www.herald.com. i would love to know if this man was the real McCoy.

with warm regards,

Mr. Reid M. Millsap

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Great site! I'm 44 and grew up in Pittsburgh I've collected articles

and such on Greb for years I have 4 copies of Fair's book and one is

signed by Fair himself. My grandfather whom I never knew grew up in

Lawrenceville and fought out of the Willows Club on Butler Ave. he was

a member of the 1924 Olympic boxing team and supposedly very close

friends with Greb. I was wondering if you ever came across his name

during your research ( Hugh Haggerty ). I spoke with Greb's daughter

years ago (I understand she is now deceased) yet she was not very

cooperative in fact she could be somewhat nasty when questioned about

her father. I guess what attracted me to Greb was that milltown

toughness only a Pittsburgh boy can appreciate, in the stories of his

exploit (many I heard from people who actually knew him) I saw the free

spirit who feared no man. A short life of brutality and charm he was one

of a kind.

Keep up the great site,

Buck

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Wow, what a great website. I can't wait to download and read "Give Him to the

Angels". Thanks for making this available. If you have any advise regarding

where to look for older out of print boxing books like this I would really

appreciate it. I'm particularly interested in finding the Gene Tunney and

Tony Zale autobiographies.

Thank you for sharing this website.

Clay Moyle

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Just visted your web site - outstanding. It was like stumbling across a gold mine !

I have been after a copy of 'Give Him To The Angels' for some time, but

baulk at paying crazy 'antique book' prices, after all, I want to read

about the Pittsburgh Windmill not admire the book behind a glass display case.

Your generosity and enthusiasm in sharing your fascination with a great

legend fighter is commendable. Harry lived life to the full, I'm sure he

would have approved.

Many Thanks,

Graham Pratt

Tutbury, Staffordshire, England.

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My name is Maria Boscia and I am Harry Wohlfarth's daughter. My father and

I were very impressed by your website, on my great grandfather. It is

interesting and unusual to read about your family members on-line. Visiting

your site gave me the opportunity to share some of the stories my Granny

(Ida Edwards) had told me when I was very young. I could actually hear her

voice as I read some of the articles which included her.

My father has given me a large stack of photos and newspaper articles to

scan in for you. I promise to start e-mailing them to you as soon as time

will allow. Working and attending classes full time leaves me with not much

time to spare. I will try to avoid sending duplicates to you if at all

possible. Most photos have been scanned in with PhotoShop 5.0 trial

version, I will purchase the latest version next time I visit the computer

show in Pittsburgh. I have saved them to a reduced size *.gif format, let

me know if you would like them saved in another format.

Great Site,

Maria

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I was glad to see someone devoted a web page to the Pittsburgh Windmill . I

have been a longtime admirer of Greb. Im 35 years old but when I was a young

boy Tommy Loughran and a fighter named Joe Shannon came over to our house to

visit my father on two occasions. This was probably about 1973 and to this day

although my father has long passed away , my mother still tells the stories of

how Tommy Loughran talked of his fights with Greb. I have a copy of "Give Him

to the Angels" that Joe Shannon's widow gave my Mother. I have probably read

it 5 times in the last 20 years.

I have a couple questions for you . Is it true that to this day that no film

exists of Greb in action? Can you tell me more about the documentary that is

planned ...I have always thought that Grebs life was one that would make a great movie.

Please respond to

DanPan066@aol.com

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Hello, I just recently found your Harry Greb website, and I have enjoyed it very much. I have these small articles I have been able to collect about Mr. Greb. Also I believe there is a bit about Mr. Greb in the book "Boxing Babylon".

I hope these items can be used on your site and to share with all other Harry Greb fans.

Mickey R. Brickey

Mickey has sent 3 Ring Magazine articles and a Joyce Carol Oates section

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Great sight dedicated to a great fighter. I hope to see more pages like this one established in the future. If so this would be one to emulate!!

Boxing Wise Website

Their link description to this page

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This is a great site, I checked it out and put the URL on my CNN/SI preferences. Very, very well done, everyone should check it out.

Kid Lefty

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Dear Sir:

The abuse of superlatives in reference to today's boxing champions continues

to astound me. Specially in view of the fact that not long ago truly tough,

fearless, and indefatigable warriors abounded. Harry Greb was the greatest of

these warriors. You have provided a great service in reminding today's

misguided boxing fans and arrogant, spoiled champions, what true greatness

signifies. Perhaps the facts on the most amazing, toughest, most courageous,

and greatest fighter of all times, will humble the best of the bunch.

Thanks

Dr. Ron Vigo

M.A., M.S., Ph.D., M.F.T.

Director, The Helmholtz Institute of Science

Mathematical Cognitive Neuroscience Laboratory

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Very nice website for a great fighter

PUG

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Saw your website advertised on RSB.  OUTSTANDING!!!  As I write this, my

printer is churning out the Greb book.  I didn't even know there was a book

written about him.  Once again, thanks for a great site!  I'm a staff writer

for the CyberBoxing Zone, and I will make sure this site gets added to our

links list, and gets a mention in the next issue.

Tom Gerbasi

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Dear Sir:

I just visited your Harry Greb webpage! Congratulations. on a job well

done and obviously a labor of love. I do have 3 or 4 photographs from

two of the Greb- Tunney fights. If you will e-mail your mailing address

I will send you scannings. Two of the photographs are reserved for a

customer but the other two are available to purchase. Either way I will

provide scannings of them for you to use as you see fit. I have been

collecting boxing related material for over twenty years and recently

have begun selling some items to support my habit. I am very active and

will be happy to provide you access to scannings of any Greb material

which I acquire in the future.

Congratulations again on a very nice tribute to a remarkable fighter .

Regards,

Harry Shaffer

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Thanks!!Looooonngggggggg overdue!!

Mario Clark

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Kevin Smith

Hello, Great web site-----I have been waiting for something of this nature

for a long time. A couple of things you might be interested in. First,

there was a record of Greb compiled by a gent in Penn that lists all of the

venues', weights, referee's and newspaper decisions(from various sources)

that appeared in IBD a couple of months ago. I would think you would want

to check that out. If you can't find it, I have a copy. Also, I have a

reproduction of a picture of Greb and Norfolk, before their first bout in

Pittsburgh. The quality is poor but you may still be interested in posting

it.(For the record, Norfolk beat Greb both times they fought. In

Pittsburgh the fight was not even that close, with Greb's mauling tactics

failing to work against a much heavier Norfolk. The second bout in Boston

was a fairly even affair with both men landing their share of punches. The

bout ended when Greb became angered and attacked Norfolk after the bell had

sounded. A note on that bout: Norfolk was fighting with only one eye as

well. He had lost vision in his left eye after a bout with lee Anderson in

Phoenix.)

I want to commend you on your effort to pay homage to one of the five best

fighters to ever roam the earth. I am wondering in you have any info on

his sparring sessions with Panama Joe Gans, when both were training Dempsey

for his bout with Billy Miske in Benton Harbor.

Just to let you know I am an avid researcher of African American fighters

during the twenties and thirties. Any info you would like to exchange

would be great. Or just conversation. Talk to you soon.

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Dear Sir ,

I have been looking for information about Greb for several years now. On

my own I have been able to find some, but nothing like what you have.

You really have done a great service to those of us hooked on Greb.

As for me, I am a graduate film student at the University of Southern

Califonia. Last year I wrote a screenplay in which Harry Greb features

largely - even though he is cast as sort of the antagonist in the script.

At the time of writing and subsequently I have tried to find out more

information on Greb. You're making available Give Him To the Angels,

which I have not been able find anywhere else, is a great help. Also, in

my attempts to discover more Greb stuff I have stumbled upon several

pictures which I have scanned that do not appear on your website. I have

a shot of Greb and Wilson posing in the ring directly before their fight -

the quality is passable but not too great. I also have a similar shot of

Greb and Tunney before their first fight. Again the quality is

passable. Also, I have a picture of Harry just posing in shorts and

gloves. I'd be glad to send all of this to you.

It's nice, after almost two years of searching the Web to finally find

something substantial on Harry Greb.

Thank you.

David Bezmozgis

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